Tuesday, June 03, 2008

Me & John Piper on Fundamentalists

My comments (in blue) on John Piper's 20 Reasons I Don't Take Potshots at (Christian) Fundamentalists.

1. They are humble and respectful and courteous and even funny. (Many Buddhist, Atheists, etc are like that too)

2. They believe in truth. (Their truth, that is)

3. They believe that truth really matters. (By being fundamentalistic towards their truth without need to heed others)

4. They believe that the Bible is true, all of it. (Their own interpretation of the Bible, that is)

5. They know that the Bible calls for some kind of separation from the world. (that includes separation from other non-fundamentalistic Christians?)

6. They have backbone and are not prone to compromise principle. (Read: Stubborn)

7. They put obedience to Jesus above the approval of man (even though they fall short, like others). (Good to learn this from them)

8. They believe in hell and are loving enough to warn people about it. (The Spannish Inquisition is the most loving then)

9. They believe in heaven and sing about how good it will be to go there. (Good for them)

10. Their "social action" is helping the person next door (like Jesus), which doesn't usually get written up in the newspaper. (Good to learn this from them)

11. They tend to raise law-abiding, chaste children, in spite of the fact that Barna says evangelical kids in general don't have any better track record than non-Christians. (No idea)

12. They resist trendiness. (No idea)

13. They don’t think too much is gained by sounding hip. (Good to learn this from them)

14. They may not be hip, but they don’t go so far as to drive buggies or insist on typewriters. (Good to learn this from them)

15. They still sing hymns. (So what?)

16. They are not breathless about being accepted in the scholarly guild. (That's not carrying out what St. Paul urges Christians to do in "taking captive every thoughts for Christ..")

17. They give some contemporary plausibility to New Testament claim that the church is the “pillar and bulwark of the truth.” (They cannot match up to the Roman Catholics in this regard)

18. They are good for the rest of evangelicals because of all this. (Nonsense, unless Evangelicalism wants to be defined in that way)

19. My dad was one. (OK.... no wonder this list)

20. Everybody to my left thinks I am one. And there are a lot of people to my left. (OK, OK....double 'no wonder' why this list)


Augustinian Successor said...

Dear Joshua,

On one issue, at least, Fundamentalism is to be preferred to Roman Catholicism any time. In Fundamentalism, the conscience is bound to the Word of God alone. In Roman Catholicism, the conscience is bound to an institution.

The real and present danger in Roman Catholicism is that the conscience is bound to human tradition. Fundamentalism has human tradition too but it does not pretend to be authoritative.

With you, I prefer Roman Catholicism on many issues but on the fundamental issue of the conscience, Roman Catholicism is not authoritative but authoritarian.

Sze Zeng said...

Hi Jason,

You have good points there :)

The Inquisitor said...

His Eminence naturally prefers authoritarianism anyday.